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Tuesday, February 2, 2010

Nerf Deploy - Internals Guide!

This guide will serve as a reference for the internals of the Nerf Deploy CS-6, along with parts comparisons with the Nerf Recon CS-6.

Nerf Deploy CS-6 - Disassembled




Nerf Deploy CS-6 - Front Internals




Nerf Deploy CS-6 - Back Internals




Nerf Deploy CS-6 - Spring Plunger Close-Up




Nerf Deploy CS-6 - Internals Comparison with Recon CS-6
(Top: Deploy / Bottom: Recon)





Nerf Deploy CS-6 - Plunger and Spring Comparison with Recon CS-6
(Top: Deploy / Bottom: Recon)



102 comments:

  1. IS the deploy's spring beefier?

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  2. It looks if you vouch to keep the gun "deployed" (keep the stock blocked open), you can do double-springing / put extra springs in the stock to this blaster after just a bit of filing/sanding and sticking in a PVC pipe.

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  3. Ehren,

    The Deploy's stock spring is the same as the Recon's stock spring, just in a different colour.

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  4. Albert,

    Yup, there is alot of empty space in the extended shoulder stock, so its definitely possible to do the "power stock" mod or any other integration mods too.

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  5. From the spring comparison picture, it looks like the Deploy's spring has more coils to it, so I'm not so sure they're the same spring.

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  6. I noticed that the Deploy's front looks alot like both the Longshot and Recon.

    Does that mean that the Deploy is compatible with both of their barrels?

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    1. no dip, captain obvious.

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  7. Bazookafied,

    I've tested both the Deploy and Recon stock springs and found that both have around the same spring rate, so i guess if there is any difference its very minimal.

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  8. tbaggs88,

    Yes, as part of the N-Strike range, the Deploy can also use the Longshot, Longstrike and Recon barrels and accessories too.

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  9. I was curious if the cocking handle of the deploy and the raider were interchangable. Do they both fit on the same slide? Would it take a some modding to be able to swap them?

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  10. bwalters,

    I've tested swapping the Deploy and Raider front priming handles too, but they wouldn't fit properly as their priming rail spacings and handle internal designs are slightly different.

    Though i can see that with abit of custom modification, its possible to get either front priming handles to fit on either blasters.

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  11. Thanks as it almost cost nearly a hundred dollars!

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  12. Do you think it could be modded to slamfire like the raider?

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  13. AC/DCman,

    Well, with enough ideas, time and effort, anything is possible.

    Imho, if you successfully find a way to mod the slam-fire feature into a Deploy (or any other blaster), do share it with us! :)

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  14. what springs can i use without taking out other springs from other nerf guns?

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  15. EVIL muahahaha,

    For the Deploy, the popular way to do double springing is to put another spring behind the plunger, usually encased in a PVC tube and cap to hold it together.

    You can source for suitable springs from spring manufacturers or shops near your area.

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  16. hi, i opened up my deploy to mod it, but after i put the casing together and pressed the 'deploy' button, only the stock moved.The part where the light is didn't move into position.Could you help me?

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  17. airconpuffycloud,

    The Deploy's clip-section not flipping down after re-assembling the casing is usually due to a few factors:

    - The flip-spring not attached properly.
    - Internal components not aligned properly.
    - The casing screws tightened too much.

    Re-open the casing and check everything again, make sure all the parts are aligned properly before assembling back the casing.

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  18. Would the aluminum recon plunger work with this gun?

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  19. Chriz,

    The custom fabricated aluminium plunger for the Recon has a slightly different design compared to the Deploy plunger, so it wouldn't be able to be used in it.

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  20. would any of the other recon mods work with the deploy? Such as the aircompressor mod work?

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  21. Hey, I modded my Deploy but the "Deploy" function on it isn't working properly. I can flip the clip part up, and if i pull on it while pressing the Deploy button, it'll come out, but doesn't work like it's supposed to. As for the stock, I can push it in but even while holding the button it doesn't come back out. If it's not too much trouble, could youpost a pic of the internals with only the parts necessary for this mechanism in the right places and/or explain where they go and what they do?

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  22. Chriz,

    The Deploy and Recon use similiar internal firing systems (though the exact part dimensions may differ slightly), so its possible to do similiar mods for both blasters.

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  23. Blargito,

    Open up your Deploy again and check the alignment of all the components. The parts fit logically so just keep adjusting various alignments until it functions properly.

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  24. i want to make it shoot further maybe putting a stronger spring ?

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  25. Yup, replacing the stock spring with a stronger aftermarket spring is one of the many ways to increase the firing range.

    For further modding reference, check out my Recon, Raider and Longshot Mod Guides in this blog. :)

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  26. Just got this today.....Range is mehh......structure of gun is OK, but it works pretty well. 7.5/10.

    If anything, the spring could be beefier/tighter.

    RANGE is main problem

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  27. Yesterday I took apart my deploy. I got to the bolt and couldn't find the place to drill out the ar, so I decided to put it back together again.so after everything was back in place, i tested it before closing it again. It wouldn't cock! Now I'm super mad at my stupid deploy, anyone able to help? Please?

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  28. Chriz,

    Just keep checking and testing until all the parts are installed and aligned properly.

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  29. are you supposed to be able to remove the magazine when the light is sideways? on my deploy the light needs to be flipped up the magazine can be removed, however, the magazine can be inserted in either direction. Is something wrong or is that normal?

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  30. I have the same problem as Chriz so if anyone has a solution I would greatly appreciate it. The bolt is extremely difficult to get out but I managed and drilled out the ar

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    1. Well.. you could search on youtube.com for the Nerf Deploy CS-6 "kidwell mod" for Removing the AR

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  31. ZombiezuRFER,

    Clips can be loaded and unloaded when the Deploy clip section is in either the horizontal or vertical positions.

    As with all N-Strike clip-based blasters, make sure your bolt is pulled back before doing any loading or unloading of the clips.

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  32. Very good resource.
    My son bought a Deploy yesterday. It won't "cock" when the clip/magazine is in the horizontal position. It only works if the clip is in the vertical position. Is this normal? If not, any suggestions?
    Thanks

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  33. how do you remove the AR for the deploy?

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  34. Khushal,

    To remove the Deploy's AR, you can use the same AR removal method as shown in my Recon Mod Guide:

    http://modworks.blogspot.com/2009/10/nerf-recon-mod-guide.html

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  35. Tim,

    The Deploy should be able to be primed when the clip is in the horizontal position.

    Perhaps there is a mis-aligned part inside the blaster. If you have the time to tinker with it, you could disassemble it and try to troubleshoot the issue.

    Since its still new and if you still have the reciept, a much simpler way is to just return it to the store and exchange it for a new working unit.

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  36. Thanks much. It's on its way for an exchange.

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  37. What is are the distensions of the Deploy spring? Looking to put a better spring in my gun.

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  38. sealedseven,

    Its around 2.8cm OD, 2.7cm ID, approx 11.5cm in length.

    The spring dimensions for reverse plunger systems (ie. Deploy, Recon, Raider, Longstrike etc) have to be exact or they may not fit properly, therefore it'll be best if you take out the stock spring and physically compare it to aftermarket springs.

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  39. I modded my Deploy a while ago, and am having trouble with the actual "deploying." I've put everything in place and have a good idea of how the gun works through my modding it, and have everything that makes it deploy as it should be, but when I hit "Deploy," the front part turns horizontally about half as much as it should. The stock pops out, but the handle doesn't go all the way back. I have to push it about one eighth of the way it's supposed to go until it clicks into place. It fires fine, and I have no problems with performance other than this. Any ideas on what could be causing it? Sorry for rambling on here.

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  40. Andy,

    The Deploy is quite a tricky blaster to put back together because of all its additional rotating parts.

    The issues about incomplete "deployment" of the front section and grip are mainly due to mis-alignment in the parts and springs that are involved in the rotation systems.

    So the only way to solve them is to open up the casing again and keep adjusting those parts until they align properly and deploy smoothly.

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  41. ya, there is a spring near the muzzle of the gun that needs to be pulled back and hooked into place onto the rotating light assembly. It takes a bit of work to pull the spring back into a position where you can attach it correctly onto the rotating assembly. I used a bit of string and wrapped it aound the spring end and pulled really hard to get it pulled back to where i needed it to be

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  42. yes iam fixing or trying to fix a deploy cs6
    for my young friend the ?is a small piece is deluding me it is yellow and has two prongs curved and pointing in the same direction.
    it has a retangled hole in the middle and has a
    pratruding half inch piece in the back where does it GO?this piece is only one inch long.
    also i cant figure how the trigger releases the
    plunger?when i cock it back the plunger there is a vlittle white spring loaded catch that
    catches the plunger and prevents it from moving?

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  43. sikhidas,

    Hmmm... can't really visualise the part you mentioned, perhaps you could look closely at the photos of the Deploy internals and see if you can spot where that part came from.

    As for the trigger system, when the blaster is primed and plunger is pushed backwards, the plunger itself catches on a spring-loaded plastic "gate" which holds it back.

    When the trigger is pulled, it simply pushes the spring-loaded plastic "gate" upwards, thereby releasing the plunger.

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  44. HI. I made a big mistake. I've put out the magazine holde including the "flashlight" the silber spring at the front of the gun pops out and i cant get it in again. any help?

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  45. Darkknight,

    Looks like the "deploy" mechanism spring popped out.

    To position it back, just use a small screwdriver or needle-nose pliers to engage the spring back on the mechanism. It's abit of a hassle but can be fixed.

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  46. My brother has a clear deploy and it's breech won't close all the way. It fires fine but a few feet less than out raiders. Is this poor design or a defective model?

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  47. Keith,

    If its a brand new set, then its most likely a defective unit.

    I'd advise to exchange it at the store for a new working set.

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  48. no it's a crappy design mine and my freind's are that way 2

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  49. Does this gun have a reverse plunger?

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  50. yks1277,

    Yes, you can see the similarity of the Deploy plunger with the Recon, Longstrike, Raider and Alpha Trooper blasters, they all use reverse plunger systems.

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  51. Very tricky blaster .... Had mine apart five times , works better now but doesn't deploy as fast as it did originally . AR removal and E-tape spring seet spacer gave me about 10' more range . As usual with streamlines , very erratic dart behavior in the last 5' . Stock does not always extend to lock position without help . Since so many poeple are having trouble , I would suggest removing the AR with out taking the blaster apart . This involves cutting teeth in the end of copper tubing , chuck it in a drill and insert into the barrel . This poses risks of it's own but at least you don't have these deployment issues .

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  52. my deploy won't shoot i opened it up and it looks the same as the pics above i dont understand it it will load but wont shoot

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  53. Madridson2,

    Check that the plunger is catching properly when you prime it, if not then try to troubleshoot the components, see if any parts are damaged or mis-aligned.

    If you can't solve it, just exchange it at the store for a new working unit.

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  54. how do i do that(the troubleshooting thing)it looks just like your pics

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  55. Madridson2,

    "Troubleshoot" means you check all the parts and test them to see which ones are not working properly. Even if the internals look like the layout in my photos, there might still be parts which are not working properly.

    You will just have to check and solve them on your own. I can't help you much further.

    Like I mentioned, if you can't solve it. Just return it to the store and exchange for a new working unit.

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  56. Hi, I recently reassembled my deploy, and now the pump wont cock or move more than an inch! And when I opened it up again I realized that the plunger is not catching very well. With the shell on the plunger wont move, with the shell off it doesn't catch.

    So confused :S

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  57. Excuse me, I've JUST gotten a Deploy, and I modded it by dis-assembling it and destroying the AR, but I now can't seem to assemble it correctly...

    I can get it to the point where everything is screwed together, but then, the handle only goes about halfway and gets stuck.
    When the top casing is off, I noticed that if I pulled the handle back and it got stuck,
    I could take off the top shell of the bit where the mag goes in and then the spring would snap right back..
    Could you please post a video or maybe some more close-up pictures of the important bits?
    I'm really desperate..
    Thanks.

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  58. green,

    Seems like you just have components mis-aligned inside the blaster, you'll just have to keep re-positioning the various parts until they fit properly.

    Honestly, you are not alone in having trouble with assembling back a Nerf Deploy, it's indeed one of the most troublesome blasters to mod, due to all it's moving parts. The first time i re-assembled my Deploy, it took me half a day just to get it working again!

    Unfortunately, i've already traded away my Deploy so i can't post up anymore internals photos of it.

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  59. Hmm, could you please link me to any good tutorials on how to assemble this? or any pictures? or, could you please, oh please, circle the important bits in your pictures?
    Thanks!

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  60. Ben,

    Perhaps you can have a look at this thread at the NerfHaven forum:

    http://nerfhaven.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19950&mode=linear

    It's not a tutorial on how to assemble it, but at least there are more photos of the parts positions.

    Anyways, as mentioned in my previous comments, the Deploy is a very troublesome blaster to disassemble and assemble, every part is important and have to be positioned exactly or the blaster wouldn't work properly.

    You'll just have to work your way though the process and troubleshoot any issues along the way.

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  61. I FIXED IT!
    The Air Restricter removal has given my Deploy ranges of about 50 - 60 feet with streamline darts.

    The big problem is, that when it's assembled and you cock it back, and then can't cock it forward.

    When disassembled, look underneath the barrel (the tube that has the AR in it) and there should be a little rail that the barrel follows.
    Make sure that the little tab that comes out of the barrel is inserted into that rail, and then double check all of your other components, re-assemble, and ta-da!~

    The only problems are, that during the process, I broke the front nozzle (can be fixed with glue but I'm scared I'll break it again) and that I accidentally ripped a wire for the light.

    Other than that, it works fine. A bit noisy though. Must get my hands on some pads soon.

    Oh, SGNerf, Do you think I can use a lot of layers of paper or bubble wrap or cardboard and then glue it to the bottom of the plunger instead of buying rubber pads?

    THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP!!!!!!!
    Now my favorite Nerfing Site.

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  62. Ben,

    Good to hear that you've managed to get your Deploy working again.

    As for the plunger padding... materials like paper, cardboard or bubble wrap are not as good as proper soft foam padding at absorbing impact.

    An alternative i would recommend to you is to just get a sheet of soft craft foam (can find them at most stationary stores) and cut them to shape to pad the plunger.

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  63. Hmm, then could I use foam from a Nerf Dart?

    and, thanks for the fast replies!

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  64. Ben,

    You can try using foam dart foam as padding, though that foam is rather light so it tends to offer less impact absorption.

    If possible, try to look for foam padding that are made from denser material (but can still be compressed flat easily), those would absorb impacts better.

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  65. Hmm, maybe 2 layers of a dart?
    Or could I use maybe something like a woolly sock?

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  66. Ben,

    Well, you can try various materials and padding thickness to see if they can work well. Just make sure that the padding material can compress flat so that it does not interfere with the foam dart chambering or clip loading/unloading process.

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  67. Okay, I'm really sorry about all these nooby questions, but my last one is,


    could I use this material?
    http://bit.ly/dVrflO

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  68. Ben,

    I've never tested that particular material before, so i can't really advise much on it. I guess you'll just have to order it to test out.

    Perhaps it'll be simpler if you just check at the hardware stores around your area, most hardware stores stock soft foam padding, usually as bumper material to protect household furniture.

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  69. I went to mod my deploy's air supressor last week with my cousins and we had it apart and couldn't get a piece off. We tried to pry it off with a screw driver (not the best of ideas) and ended up snapping the piece off and breaking the whole launch mechanism. We decided to use the broken blaster for future mods. But when we were opening it up the should rest or whatever pops out of the back releasing the handle wouldn't open. We had all the screws out and nothing worked. Any idea why this happened as I might do a mod on my spare deploy. Thx

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  70. Jake,

    Maybe there are still one or two remaining/hidden machine screws still left in the casing, so do check again.

    Otherwise, it's also likely that one or more of the parts somehow got wedged into an odd position so you'll just have to pry it apart.

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  71. dont bother just get the longshot dehhhh

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  72. SG Nerf,

    I'm having some Deploy problems. I've looked all over varies forums, Google, etc and haven't found many answers. Can you tell me which part(s) lock the bolt in the forwar position? Lastly, on the top half of the shell there is that little orange piece. What does it do an how it is assembled? There are several different pieces and I can't find any reference pictures on it.

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  73. Naturalman_7,

    Sorry, i've sold away my Deploys quite a while back so i can't really help much on it... they were so much hassle just to take apart and put back that i never bothered to work on them further. :)

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  74. I have a mod guide on my site to make the recon slam-fire, I don't no if it will work on the deploy though. Anyway, to see the mod guide, go to www.crazyfornerf.com. Maybe you can try it on the deploy?

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  75. crazyfornerf,

    Thats an excellent slam-fire mod that you've done for the Recon! I believe with some adjustments it should be able to work on the Deploy too. :)

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  76. my deploy keeps on getting stuck even with out the darts. i have to yank on it several times to get it unstuck. what should i do?

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  77. ninjanerf,

    You got a faulty set. Just exchange it at the store for a new working unit, or just buy a new set.

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  78. Can the deploy spring replace the raider spring?

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  79. Joel,,

    Possible, their stock springs have similar dimensions too.

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  80. Can the deploy spring replace the recon spring?

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  81. Joel,

    Yes... actually, all the clip-fed reverse plunger N-Strike blasters use springs with the same dimensions (ie. Recon, Raider, Longstrike, Deploy, Alpha Trooper etc).

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  82. My deploy has good range. My recon has medium range. If I switch the two springs, do my recon have better range?

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  83. Joel,

    Both of their springs have the same load, so i guess the difference in performance of a few ft is probably due to the parts fit, plunger seal or bolt seal of the blasters, not the spring.

    Note that individual Nerf blasters do vary in performance because of manufacturing variations, so it doesn't mean that all units (even of the same model) will have the same performance. It depends on luck sometimes. :)

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  84. Sg Nerf,

    I'm new to modding, so apologies for the basic question:
    I'm planning on removing the air restrictors on my deploy using the "Kidwell Mod" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imHw0jyZt4A). If I carry this out, will I significantly decrease the life of the blaster through increased wear on the parts, or does just removing the A/R's not change how hard the plunger impacts on the casing?

    Thanks.

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    1. David,
      I've tried that Kidwell mod and as the result it fires farther but the impact destroys the plunger so if you do this it will be at your own risk on breaking you gun.

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  85. David,

    Well, you can remove the AR using the Kidwell Mod... though it seems to be quite a messy way to do it.

    Maybe you can try the pipe cutter method instead, like in my Recon Mod Guide (same method applies to the Deploy too), much neater and no need power tools:

    http://modworks.blogspot.com/2009/10/nerf-recon-mod-guide.html

    As mentioned in my mod guides... without the AR, there is no air buffering system to cushion the plunger on bolt impact, hence the loud cracking sound during firing.

    There will be very high wear and tear on the plunger by both normal firing and dry firing. So proper padding should be applied to the plunger to help cushion the impact.

    Note that once you mod a blaster, the extra stress from the mods will naturally shorten its lifespan, so that's just something you have to accept before attempting blaster mods. :)

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  86. My Deploy is only a week old or so, and has lost more than half it's power when firing. Some darts go about 3-4 meters, and others barely make it out the barrel. Any ideas?

    And I have noticed on numerous occasions that there is a little switch inside under the barrel that will slide forward and lock when the pump is forward, but will sometimes lock when the pump is being primed, and will not let it slide more than a few centimeters. I need to open up the access panel and physically push it back with a stick or wire, which is rather annoying. Can it be removed/cut off?

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  87. Fat Jesus Oz,

    Seems you might have got a faulty unit, since its only a week old, if possible just exchange it at the store for a new working unit. Saves all the hassle of trying to fix it.

    The mechanism you see in the Deploy is most likely the bolt or priming lock component, that could be removed and may solve the priming issue.

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  88. Thankyou. I'll see if I can send it back before I start cutting things.

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  89. Hey a SG Nerf it's me again. I got a new deploy 3 days ago but after playing for 3 days there something strange happend when you use it for a while the pump priming seems to have a squicking sound and when you prime it back it get stuck first and when more power is applied it will cock so its ok but when pushing it forward it'l get stuck again due to the dart lock "the lock the pushes darts into the barrel, the thing that is moving moving when you cock it forward if you know that" i did not mod it so it is a stock blaster and i really need some helpin Pleas.

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    1. KylieNerfer,

      One or more of the internal parts probably somehow got mis-aligned (or maybe damaged during usage), you'll have to open up the casing to find the problem part and fix/replace it.

      Alternatively, you could just exchange it at the store for a new working unit, 'cos it might also be due to a faulty/weak part from the factory.

      Imho, its much easier to do an exchange, save you all the hassle.

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  90. i dont know if anyone has recommended this but if your parts dont deploy all the way try to grease the moving parts i did and it works great i hope this helps.

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  91. I hate the deploy I bought.It fires with such a weird loud noise similar to dry firing a AR modded maverick...and the blaster can shoot only about 7-8 meters.....

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  92. its REALLY common for this to happen with the deploy, it varies from unit to unit, but it most of the ones I've used barely make 6 metres :( all in all its no more than a gimmick and not really good for a dart gun, I've modded a few but it does not really help, as i said it varies but i would definitely advise against ANYONE getting this blaster.

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  93. i need help the door in the barrel blocks elite darts anyone know how to fix it?

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